> And the Democrat party has been hijacked by queers, fairies, > vegetarians, PITA, socialists and Prius drivers ;-)
Not hijacked. The Democrats just don't see the need to stick their noses in everyone's private lives. Its simple math that most businesses understand. Why voluntarily reduce your market share by pissing off potential customers?
This is what has me worried about the GOP. They've totally lost touch with the traditional values of sensible regulation, fiscal responsibility and keeping the nanny state at bay. Now its all about the social agenda while our economy goes to hell.
-- Paul Hovnanian mailto:P...@Hovnanian.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ How do I set a laser printer to stun?
>>>> If you don't know why I'm laughing, you're terribly under-informed.
>>>> Talk about hope and change... ;-)
>>>> ...Jim Thompson >>> We had a republican win over the 3 term dem county executive >>> (Westchester, NY). >>> Unfortunately, the city of White Plains election seems to be all taken >>> by dems. >>> One independent challenger for mayor had his petition thrown out by the >>> courts because of a mis-understanding about filing date. Call me >>> suspicious but the only other candidate was endorsed by both parties. A >>> big write-in campaign resulted. We'll see how that works out in the >>> next week. >>> http://www.lohud.com/ >> Hopefully our taxes will stop increasing so fast. $12.5k for a raised >> ranch on half an acre. Sheesh.
>> Cheers
>> Phil Hobbs
> Move to Texas. $4.5k (most of it school district tax) for 12 acres > with house and barn and no state income tax. I could drop it > some if I put a couple of cows out back and took the ag exemption.
It's sort of a long haul to Manhattan from there, though... ;)
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
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>>> If you don't know why I'm laughing, you're terribly under-informed.
>>> Talk about hope and change... ;-)
>>> ...Jim Thompson
>> We had a republican win over the 3 term dem county executive >> (Westchester, NY). >> Unfortunately, the city of White Plains election seems to be all taken >> by dems. >> One independent challenger for mayor had his petition thrown out by >> the courts because of a mis-understanding about filing date. Call me >> suspicious but the only other candidate was endorsed by both parties. >> A big write-in campaign resulted. We'll see how that works out in the >> next week. >> http://www.lohud.com/
> Hopefully our taxes will stop increasing so fast. $12.5k for a raised > ranch on half an acre. Sheesh.
> Cheers
> Phil Hobbs
Probably more in Scaresdale or Larchmont or Rye - maybe others as well. :-( But thank goodness we got rid of Spano.
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:03:30 -0600, flipper <flip...@fish.net> wrote:
>The renter can also "thank God" for the privilege of paying property >taxes, by proxy through rent to the owner.
Renters are the most ripped off citizens this country has ever had. ESPECIALLY now.
Property owners that let out their properties, and developers that make apt complexes they then fail to maintain worth a fuck are the biggest thieves in the country.
Ford have ridden out the recession without any handouts from the government if my info is correct and they are making a profit at the mo as well. which is more than can be said for GM. Why is this ?. Because they make economical, well designed, reliable and unpretentious cars that people actually want to buy.
I don't and have never run a Ford, but am impressed by their engineering prowess and ability to produce good all round designs on a consistent basis. At least, that is, in Europe...
>> And the Democrat party has been hijacked by queers, fairies, >> vegetarians, PITA, socialists and Prius drivers ;-)
> Not hijacked. The Democrats just don't see the need to stick their noses > in everyone's private lives. Its simple math that most businesses > understand. Why voluntarily reduce your market share by pissing off > potential customers?
> This is what has me worried about the GOP. They've totally lost touch > with the traditional values of sensible regulation,
Ah,that is why DemocRATs Barney Frank and Chris Dodd blocked Republican efforts to regulate FannieMae/FreddieMac more tightly.(and personally benefitting from it) and thereafter,the economy tanked due to their failure to act.
Or that CO2 is now a "greenhouse gas"(to be regulated,of course),real sensible.....
Or by blocking clean nuclear power(by closing Yucca Mtn),preventing new domestic oil and gas drilling without having anything to take it's place,and meanwhile spending more on FOREIGN oil. REAL "sensible"(if you want USA to decline)
> fiscal > responsibility
As if Obama/DemocRATs are "fiscally responsible"....
>and keeping the nanny state at bay.
Cognitive dissonance; the DemocRATS -are- the "nanny state"; their basic position is that people need more government to regulate them and show them how to live.That blacks/minorities(except Asians) need Affirmative Action because they aren't equal to whites. Etc.
>Now its all about the > social agenda while our economy goes to hell.
It's going to Hell -BECAUSE- of the DemocRATs/"progressives" and their policies.
> This is what has me worried about the GOP. They've totally lost touch > with the traditional values of sensible regulation, fiscal > responsibility and keeping the nanny state at bay. Now its all about the > social agenda while our economy goes to hell.
OH,yeah,its also "real sensible" to increase taxes and expect an already faltering economy to improve....
>>>>>>>>>> If you don't know why I'm laughing, you're terribly under-informed.
>>>>>>>>>> Talk about hope and change... ;-)
>>>>>>>>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>>>>>>>> We had a republican win over the 3 term dem county executive >>>>>>>>> (Westchester, NY). >>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, the city of White Plains election seems to be all taken by >>>>>>>>> dems. >>>>>>>>> One independent challenger for mayor had his petition thrown out by the >>>>>>>>> courts because of a mis-understanding about filing date. Call me >>>>>>>>> suspicious but the only other candidate was endorsed by both parties. A >>>>>>>>> big write-in campaign resulted. We'll see how that works out in the next >>>>>>>>> week. >>>>>>>>> http://www.lohud.com/
>>>>>>>> Hopefully our taxes will stop increasing so fast. $12.5k for a raised >>>>>>>> ranch on half an acre. Sheesh.
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Phil Hobbs
>>>>>>> My opinion is property taxes are wrong, once you pay for your home, >>>>>>> you should not have to pay the government to live in it. (paying for >>>>>>> the rest of your life) Makes me mad just thinking about it! >>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>Read what you yourself wrote. You "pay for your home" and are then >>>>>>taxed for the right to live on the property, or ground it sets on.
>>>>>>Check out rental costs on similar properties in the same area, and >>>>>>then quit complaining and thank God that you have it so good.
>>>>>>Bill
>>>>> The renter can also "thank God" for the privilege of paying >>>>> property taxes, by proxy through rent to the owner.
>>>>Right now, I "thank God" for a place to live that I can afford, >>>>regardless of whether what I pay helps defray the landlord's cost >>>>to own the place or not.
>>>>Bill
>>>That's nice but the issue was taxes.
>>--- >>You've never seen a thread change streams in mid-horse???
>>JF
>Yes, I have but when one begins with "read what you yourself wrote >(about taxes)" followed by "quit complaining" then they're talking >about taxes too regardless of doing a zippity do da whirligig around >it.
>To wit, if taxes were lower then more people might "thank God" they >could afford a home or spend less on rent, like maybe enough to send >their kid(s) to college, and if taxes were higher more people might >'thank God' they can't afford a home or pay more for rent, like maybe >so much they can't afford to send their kid(s) to college.
>I just find the "thank God" government hasn't taxed you out of house >and home yet, so quit complaining, to be a specious argument. Taxes >are an unfortunate necessity (the degree of which being debatable), >not something to be 'prized' and sought after, Gomez Addams (Season 2, >Episode 5) notwithstanding.
--- Actually, it should be: "I just find the: "thank God government hasn't taxed you out of house and home yet, so quit complaining", to be a specious argument."
Even better: "I just find: "thank God government hasn't taxed you out of house and home yet, so quit complaining", to be a specious argument.
The best, I think, would be: "I just find: "Thank God the government hasn't taxed you out of house and home yet, so quit complaining", to be a specious argument."
>>> And the Democrat party has been hijacked by queers, fairies, >>> vegetarians, PITA, socialists and Prius drivers ;-)
>> Not hijacked. The Democrats just don't see the need to stick their noses >> in everyone's private lives. Its simple math that most businesses >> understand. Why voluntarily reduce your market share by pissing off >> potential customers?
>> This is what has me worried about the GOP. They've totally lost touch >> with the traditional values of sensible regulation,
>Ah,that is why DemocRATs Barney Frank and Chris Dodd blocked Republican >efforts to regulate FannieMae/FreddieMac more tightly.(and personally >benefitting from it) >and thereafter,the economy tanked due to their failure to act.
>Or that CO2 is now a "greenhouse gas"(to be regulated,of course),real >sensible.....
>Or by blocking clean nuclear power(by closing Yucca Mtn),preventing new >domestic oil and gas drilling without having anything to take it's >place,and meanwhile spending more on FOREIGN oil. >REAL "sensible"(if you want USA to decline)
>> fiscal >> responsibility
>As if Obama/DemocRATs are "fiscally responsible"....
>>and keeping the nanny state at bay.
>Cognitive dissonance; >the DemocRATS -are- the "nanny state"; >their basic position is that people need more government to regulate them >and show them how to live.That blacks/minorities(except Asians) need >Affirmative Action because they aren't equal to whites. Etc.
>>Now its all about the >> social agenda while our economy goes to hell.
>It's going to Hell -BECAUSE- of the DemocRATs/"progressives" and their >policies.
>you have everything backwards.
What do you expect from a DemocRAT fairy ?:-)
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Obama says, "I AM NOT a cry baby, Fox REALLY IS out to get me!"
As a fellow westchester-ite, I feel your pain. In White Plains, 'Boss' Bill Ryan was on our ballot. So far it's a pretty close race with Hyland. No love lost if Ryan looses <grin>.
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:08:17 +0000 ChrisQ <m...@devnull.com> wrote in Message id: <RezIm.26616$ep1.19...@newsfe30.ams2>:
>I don't and have never run a Ford, but am impressed by their engineering >prowess and ability to produce good all round designs on a consistent >basis. At least, that is, in Europe...
I just retired my '86 F150 last spring. 302K miles on it without an engine rebuild. Replaced it with lightly used low mileage '07 Ford Escape. I'll stick with Ford in my driveway...
> >>>> If you don't know why I'm laughing, you're terribly under-informed.
> >>>> Talk about hope and change... ;-)
> >>>> ...Jim Thompson
> >>> We had a republican win over the 3 term dem county executive > >>> (Westchester, NY). > >>> Unfortunately, the city of White Plains election seems to be all taken by > >>> dems. > >>> One independent challenger for mayor had his petition thrown out by the > >>> courts because of a mis-understanding about filing date. Call me > >>> suspicious but the only other candidate was endorsed by both parties. A > >>> big write-in campaign resulted. We'll see how that works out in the next > >>> week. > >>>http://www.lohud.com/
> >> Hopefully our taxes will stop increasing so fast. $12.5k for a raised > >> ranch on half an acre. Sheesh.
> >> Cheers
> >> Phil Hobbs
> > My opinion is property taxes are wrong, once you pay for your home, > > you should not have to pay the government to live in it. (paying for > > the rest of your life) Makes me mad just thinking about it! > > Mike
> Read what you yourself wrote. You "pay for your home" and are then > taxed for the right to live on the property, or ground it sets on.
If you're paying for it, it's a privilege, not a right.
I agree with amdx; property taxes are theft/protection racket/just WRONG.
> Check out rental costs on similar properties in the same area, and > then quit complaining and thank God that you have it so good.
Screw gods. Why the hell aren't churches taxed like my house is?
>>> And the Democrat party has been hijacked by queers, fairies, >>> vegetarians, PITA, socialists and Prius drivers ;-)
>> Not hijacked. The Democrats just don't see the need to stick their noses >> in everyone's private lives. Its simple math that most businesses >> understand. Why voluntarily reduce your market share by pissing off >> potential customers?
>> This is what has me worried about the GOP. They've totally lost touch >> with the traditional values of sensible regulation,
> Ah,that is why DemocRATs Barney Frank and Chris Dodd blocked Republican > efforts to regulate FannieMae/FreddieMac more tightly.(and personally > benefitting from it) > and thereafter,the economy tanked due to their failure to act.
> Or that CO2 is now a "greenhouse gas"(to be regulated,of course),real > sensible.....
> Or by blocking clean nuclear power(by closing Yucca Mtn),preventing new > domestic oil and gas drilling without having anything to take it's > place,and meanwhile spending more on FOREIGN oil. > REAL "sensible"(if you want USA to decline)
>> fiscal >> responsibility
> As if Obama/DemocRATs are "fiscally responsible"....
>>and keeping the nanny state at bay.
> Cognitive dissonance; > the DemocRATS -are- the "nanny state";
It isn't the Democrats trying to tell me what I can watch on TV, or read, or what 7 words I can't hear on the radio. Or who can marry whom. Or how many feet I've got to stay away from the strippers.
-- Paul Hovnanian p...@hovnanian.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Have gnu, will travel.
>>>> And the Democrat party has been hijacked by queers, fairies, >>>> vegetarians, PITA, socialists and Prius drivers ;-)
>>> Not hijacked. The Democrats just don't see the need to stick their noses >>> in everyone's private lives. Its simple math that most businesses >>> understand. Why voluntarily reduce your market share by pissing off >>> potential customers?
>>> This is what has me worried about the GOP. They've totally lost touch >>> with the traditional values of sensible regulation,
>> Ah,that is why DemocRATs Barney Frank and Chris Dodd blocked Republican >> efforts to regulate FannieMae/FreddieMac more tightly.(and personally >> benefitting from it) >> and thereafter,the economy tanked due to their failure to act.
>> Or that CO2 is now a "greenhouse gas"(to be regulated,of course),real >> sensible.....
>> Or by blocking clean nuclear power(by closing Yucca Mtn),preventing new >> domestic oil and gas drilling without having anything to take it's >> place,and meanwhile spending more on FOREIGN oil. >> REAL "sensible"(if you want USA to decline)
>>> fiscal >>> responsibility
>> As if Obama/DemocRATs are "fiscally responsible"....
>>>and keeping the nanny state at bay.
>> Cognitive dissonance; >> the DemocRATS -are- the "nanny state";
>It isn't the Democrats trying to tell me what I can watch on TV, or read, or >what 7 words I can't hear on the radio.
You've been drinking too much of the kool-aid. Obama is the one that wants to regulate radio and TV (via his nutcase FCC Chairman). And, even more scary, it's Obama who wants to regulate the Internet (in the style of China... allow no dissent).
>Or who can marry whom.
Read my "libertarian" post of earlier today.
>Or how many >feet I've got to stay away from the strippers.
That's local government. Where do you live, Indiana? Last time I was there I wasn't even allowed to carry my drink from the bar to the dining room ;-)
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Obama says, "I AM NOT a cry baby, Fox REALLY IS out to get me!"
>>>>> If you don't know why I'm laughing, you're terribly under-informed.
>>>>> Talk about hope and change... ;-)
>>>>> ...Jim Thompson
>>>> We had a republican win over the 3 term dem county executive >>>> (Westchester, NY). >>>> Unfortunately, the city of White Plains election seems to be all taken >>>> by dems. >>>> One independent challenger for mayor had his petition thrown out by the >>>> courts because of a mis-understanding about filing date. Call me >>>> suspicious but the only other candidate was endorsed by both parties. A >>>> big write-in campaign resulted. We'll see how that works out in the >>>> next week. >>>> http://www.lohud.com/
>>> Hopefully our taxes will stop increasing so fast. $12.5k for a raised >>> ranch on half an acre. Sheesh.
>>> Cheers
>>> Phil Hobbs
>> My opinion is property taxes are wrong, once you pay for your home, you >> should not have to pay the government to live in it. (paying for the rest >> of your life) Makes me mad just thinking about it! >> Mike
> Read what you yourself wrote. You "pay for your home" and are then taxed > for the right to live on the property, or ground it sets on. > Check out rental costs on similar properties in the same area, and then > quit complaining and thank God that you have it so good. > Bill
Bill, I don't get your point, my wife and I have had a lower middle income, we lived frugally and saved our money. I know people that made a lot more money but have a lot less, that's there problem not mine. Why should I check rental prices, I own my home. But I have to keep paying the government, and so do you, if you rent. I'll complain if I want, and thank who or whatever I want.
Cash for clunkers; What a stupid idea, made a blip in sales and a downturn after demand was used up, now you have to pay more for a used car cause they destroyed 600,000 cars.
Stimulus money; Seems what has been spent has went into making more (saving) government jobs. That's just what we need! (sarcasm)
Bailing out GM; I mean paying the union for votes. The investors should have gotten paid not the union. They should have went bankrupt, and reduced their cost of production.
Welfare; I know a healthy adult male useing food stamps. Did I mention he also has a camera phone that has texting and an internet connection.
I'd like to continue but I need to do some work. Somebody's got to do it.
>>>> And the Democrat party has been hijacked by queers, fairies, >>>> vegetarians, PITA, socialists and Prius drivers ;-)
>>> Not hijacked. The Democrats just don't see the need to stick their >>> noses in everyone's private lives. Its simple math that most >>> businesses understand. Why voluntarily reduce your market share by >>> pissing off potential customers?
>>> This is what has me worried about the GOP. They've totally lost >>> touch with the traditional values of sensible regulation,
>> Ah,that is why DemocRATs Barney Frank and Chris Dodd blocked >> Republican efforts to regulate FannieMae/FreddieMac more tightly.(and >> personally benefitting from it) >> and thereafter,the economy tanked due to their failure to act.
>> Or that CO2 is now a "greenhouse gas"(to be regulated,of course),real >> sensible.....
>> Or by blocking clean nuclear power(by closing Yucca Mtn),preventing >> new domestic oil and gas drilling without having anything to take >> it's place,and meanwhile spending more on FOREIGN oil. >> REAL "sensible"(if you want USA to decline)
>>> fiscal >>> responsibility
>> As if Obama/DemocRATs are "fiscally responsible"....
>>>and keeping the nanny state at bay.
>> Cognitive dissonance; >> the DemocRATS -are- the "nanny state";
> It isn't the Democrats trying to tell me what I can watch on TV, or > read, or what 7 words I can't hear on the radio. Or who can marry > whom. Or how many feet I've got to stay away from the strippers.
That's NOTHING compared to what the DemocRATs/"progressives" do with their "political correctness",speech codes,and thought-crime legislation. Also their free speech suppression by causing disruptions at colleges,pie attacks on conservative speakers,shoutdowns when conservatives try to speak,etc.
and it seems that DemocRATS/"progressives" ARE trying to tell you what you can't watch on TV or listen to on radio,thru their "Fairness Doctrine" suppression of opinion they don't like.
DemocRATs ARE the "nanny state". Their entire platform is CONTROL. and their practice.
after all,they're just a lesser version of the Soviet Union. (who also considered themselves "progressives".) "We know what's best for you" is the DemocRATic motto.
>>>>> And the Democrat party has been hijacked by queers, fairies, >>>>> vegetarians, PITA, socialists and Prius drivers ;-)
>>>> Not hijacked. The Democrats just don't see the need to stick their >>>> noses in everyone's private lives. Its simple math that most >>>> businesses understand. Why voluntarily reduce your market share by >>>> pissing off potential customers?
>>>> This is what has me worried about the GOP. They've totally lost >>>> touch with the traditional values of sensible regulation,
>>> Ah,that is why DemocRATs Barney Frank and Chris Dodd blocked >>> Republican efforts to regulate FannieMae/FreddieMac more tightly.(and >>> personally benefitting from it) >>> and thereafter,the economy tanked due to their failure to act.
>>> Or that CO2 is now a "greenhouse gas"(to be regulated,of course),real >>> sensible.....
>>> Or by blocking clean nuclear power(by closing Yucca Mtn),preventing >>> new domestic oil and gas drilling without having anything to take >>> it's place,and meanwhile spending more on FOREIGN oil. >>> REAL "sensible"(if you want USA to decline)
>>>> fiscal >>>> responsibility
>>> As if Obama/DemocRATs are "fiscally responsible"....
>>>>and keeping the nanny state at bay.
>>> Cognitive dissonance; >>> the DemocRATS -are- the "nanny state";
>> It isn't the Democrats trying to tell me what I can watch on TV, or >> read, or what 7 words I can't hear on the radio. Or who can marry >> whom. Or how many feet I've got to stay away from the strippers.
>That's NOTHING compared to what the DemocRATs/"progressives" do with their >"political correctness",speech codes,and thought-crime legislation. >Also their free speech suppression by causing disruptions at colleges,pie >attacks on conservative speakers,shoutdowns when conservatives try to >speak,etc.
>and it seems that DemocRATS/"progressives" ARE trying to tell you what you >can't watch on TV or listen to on radio,thru their "Fairness Doctrine" >suppression of opinion they don't like.
>DemocRATs ARE the "nanny state". >Their entire platform is CONTROL. and their practice.
>after all,they're just a lesser version of the Soviet Union. >(who also considered themselves "progressives".) >"We know what's best for you" is the DemocRATic motto.
There's a cure for the college types. Don't hire anyone under 45 years of age... starve 'em out ;-)
Or, as Long Shanks would say, "Breed 'em out." ;-)
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>>>> And the Democrat party has been hijacked by queers, fairies, >>>> vegetarians, PITA, socialists and Prius drivers ;-)
>>> Not hijacked. The Democrats just don't see the need to stick their >>> noses in everyone's private lives. Its simple math that most >>> businesses understand. Why voluntarily reduce your market share by >>> pissing off potential customers?
>>> This is what has me worried about the GOP. They've totally lost >>> touch with the traditional values of sensible regulation,
>> Ah,that is why DemocRATs Barney Frank and Chris Dodd blocked >> Republican efforts to regulate FannieMae/FreddieMac more tightly.(and >> personally benefitting from it) >> and thereafter,the economy tanked due to their failure to act.
>> Or that CO2 is now a "greenhouse gas"(to be regulated,of course),real >> sensible.....
>> Or by blocking clean nuclear power(by closing Yucca Mtn),preventing >> new domestic oil and gas drilling without having anything to take >> it's place,and meanwhile spending more on FOREIGN oil. >> REAL "sensible"(if you want USA to decline)
>>> fiscal >>> responsibility
>> As if Obama/DemocRATs are "fiscally responsible"....
>>>and keeping the nanny state at bay.
>> Cognitive dissonance; >> the DemocRATS -are- the "nanny state";
interesting how you edited out this part of my post;
"their basic position is that people need more government to regulate them and show them how to live.That blacks/minorities(except Asians) need Affirmative Action because they aren't equal to whites. Etc."
but left in all the other non-pertinent stuff about economy,CO2,nuclear. Very telling.
you simply cannot escape the FACT that the DemocRAT position is MORE GOVERNMENT,more regulation,more taxes,more handouts,more CONTROL. Obama even wants to determine private business executive pay and perks.
add in Internet control,"Fairness Doctrine" media control,using NEA Arts funds to spread his messages and indoctrination.
IOW,"nanny state". Big Brother.(they've even brought out ThoughtCrime.)
> It isn't the Democrats trying to tell me what I can watch on TV, or > read, or what 7 words I can't hear on the radio. Or who can marry > whom. Or how many feet I've got to stay away from the strippers.
Paul,you are SO blind. A whack with a "clue stick" wouldn't even fix you.
>>>>> And the Democrat party has been hijacked by queers, fairies, >>>>> vegetarians, PITA, socialists and Prius drivers ;-)
>>>> Not hijacked. The Democrats just don't see the need to stick their >>>> noses in everyone's private lives. Its simple math that most >>>> businesses understand. Why voluntarily reduce your market share by >>>> pissing off potential customers?
>>>> This is what has me worried about the GOP. They've totally lost >>>> touch with the traditional values of sensible regulation,
>>> Ah,that is why DemocRATs Barney Frank and Chris Dodd blocked >>> Republican efforts to regulate FannieMae/FreddieMac more tightly.(and >>> personally benefitting from it) >>> and thereafter,the economy tanked due to their failure to act.
>>> Or that CO2 is now a "greenhouse gas"(to be regulated,of course),real >>> sensible.....
>>> Or by blocking clean nuclear power(by closing Yucca Mtn),preventing >>> new domestic oil and gas drilling without having anything to take >>> it's place,and meanwhile spending more on FOREIGN oil. >>> REAL "sensible"(if you want USA to decline)
>>>> fiscal >>>> responsibility
>>> As if Obama/DemocRATs are "fiscally responsible"....
>>>>and keeping the nanny state at bay.
>>> Cognitive dissonance; >>> the DemocRATS -are- the "nanny state";
>interesting how you edited out this part of my post;
>"their basic position is that people need more government to regulate them >and show them how to live.That blacks/minorities(except Asians) need >Affirmative Action because they aren't equal to whites. Etc."
>but left in all the other non-pertinent stuff about economy,CO2,nuclear. >Very telling.
>you simply cannot escape the FACT that the DemocRAT position is MORE >GOVERNMENT,more regulation,more taxes,more handouts,more CONTROL. >Obama even wants to determine private business executive pay and perks.
>add in Internet control,"Fairness Doctrine" media control,using NEA Arts >funds to spread his messages and indoctrination.
>IOW,"nanny state". Big Brother.(they've even brought out ThoughtCrime.)
>> It isn't the Democrats trying to tell me what I can watch on TV, or >> read, or what 7 words I can't hear on the radio. Or who can marry >> whom. Or how many feet I've got to stay away from the strippers.
>Paul,you are SO blind. A whack with a "clue stick" wouldn't even fix you.
What's a "clue stick" ?:-) Is that like a cudgel? I received crowd control training using a cudgel when I was an Explorer Scout (Police Department sponsored... maybe that will be handy for dealing with leftist weenies ;-)
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Obama says, "I AM NOT a cry baby, Fox REALLY IS out to get me!"
>>>>>> And the Democrat party has been hijacked by queers, fairies, >>>>>> vegetarians, PITA, socialists and Prius drivers ;-)
>>>>> Not hijacked. The Democrats just don't see the need to stick their >>>>> noses in everyone's private lives. Its simple math that most >>>>> businesses understand. Why voluntarily reduce your market share by >>>>> pissing off potential customers?
>>>>> This is what has me worried about the GOP. They've totally lost >>>>> touch with the traditional values of sensible regulation,
>>>> Ah,that is why DemocRATs Barney Frank and Chris Dodd blocked >>>> Republican efforts to regulate FannieMae/FreddieMac more >>>> tightly.(and personally benefitting from it) >>>> and thereafter,the economy tanked due to their failure to act.
>>>> Or that CO2 is now a "greenhouse gas"(to be regulated,of >>>> course),real sensible.....
>>>> Or by blocking clean nuclear power(by closing Yucca Mtn),preventing >>>> new domestic oil and gas drilling without having anything to take >>>> it's place,and meanwhile spending more on FOREIGN oil. >>>> REAL "sensible"(if you want USA to decline)
>>>>> fiscal >>>>> responsibility
>>>> As if Obama/DemocRATs are "fiscally responsible"....
>>>>>and keeping the nanny state at bay.
>>>> Cognitive dissonance; >>>> the DemocRATS -are- the "nanny state";
>>interesting how you edited out this part of my post;
>>"their basic position is that people need more government to regulate >>them and show them how to live.That blacks/minorities(except Asians) >>need Affirmative Action because they aren't equal to whites. Etc."
>>but left in all the other non-pertinent stuff about >>economy,CO2,nuclear. Very telling.
>>you simply cannot escape the FACT that the DemocRAT position is MORE >>GOVERNMENT,more regulation,more taxes,more handouts,more CONTROL. >>Obama even wants to determine private business executive pay and >>perks.
>>add in Internet control,"Fairness Doctrine" media control,using NEA >>Arts funds to spread his messages and indoctrination.
>>IOW,"nanny state". Big Brother.(they've even brought out >>ThoughtCrime.)
>>> It isn't the Democrats trying to tell me what I can watch on TV, or >>> read, or what 7 words I can't hear on the radio. Or who can marry >>> whom. Or how many feet I've got to stay away from the strippers.
>>Paul,you are SO blind. A whack with a "clue stick" wouldn't even fix >>you.
> What's a "clue stick" ?:-) Is that like a cudgel? I received crowd > control training using a cudgel when I was an Explorer Scout (Police > Department sponsored... maybe that will be handy for dealing with > leftist weenies ;-)
>>>>>>> And the Democrat party has been hijacked by queers, fairies, >>>>>>> vegetarians, PITA, socialists and Prius drivers ;-)
>>>>>> Not hijacked. The Democrats just don't see the need to stick their >>>>>> noses in everyone's private lives. Its simple math that most >>>>>> businesses understand. Why voluntarily reduce your market share by >>>>>> pissing off potential customers?
>>>>>> This is what has me worried about the GOP. They've totally lost >>>>>> touch with the traditional values of sensible regulation,
>>>>> Ah,that is why DemocRATs Barney Frank and Chris Dodd blocked >>>>> Republican efforts to regulate FannieMae/FreddieMac more >>>>> tightly.(and personally benefitting from it) >>>>> and thereafter,the economy tanked due to their failure to act.
>>>>> Or that CO2 is now a "greenhouse gas"(to be regulated,of >>>>> course),real sensible.....
>>>>> Or by blocking clean nuclear power(by closing Yucca Mtn),preventing >>>>> new domestic oil and gas drilling without having anything to take >>>>> it's place,and meanwhile spending more on FOREIGN oil. >>>>> REAL "sensible"(if you want USA to decline)
>>>>>> fiscal >>>>>> responsibility
>>>>> As if Obama/DemocRATs are "fiscally responsible"....
>>>>>>and keeping the nanny state at bay.
>>>>> Cognitive dissonance; >>>>> the DemocRATS -are- the "nanny state";
>>>interesting how you edited out this part of my post;
>>>"their basic position is that people need more government to regulate >>>them and show them how to live.That blacks/minorities(except Asians) >>>need Affirmative Action because they aren't equal to whites. Etc."
>>>but left in all the other non-pertinent stuff about >>>economy,CO2,nuclear. Very telling.
>>>you simply cannot escape the FACT that the DemocRAT position is MORE >>>GOVERNMENT,more regulation,more taxes,more handouts,more CONTROL. >>>Obama even wants to determine private business executive pay and >>>perks.
>>>add in Internet control,"Fairness Doctrine" media control,using NEA >>>Arts funds to spread his messages and indoctrination.
>>>IOW,"nanny state". Big Brother.(they've even brought out >>>ThoughtCrime.)
>>>> It isn't the Democrats trying to tell me what I can watch on TV, or >>>> read, or what 7 words I can't hear on the radio. Or who can marry >>>> whom. Or how many feet I've got to stay away from the strippers.
>>>Paul,you are SO blind. A whack with a "clue stick" wouldn't even fix >>>you.
>> What's a "clue stick" ?:-) Is that like a cudgel? I received crowd >> control training using a cudgel when I was an Explorer Scout (Police >> Department sponsored... maybe that will be handy for dealing with >> leftist weenies ;-)
>a metaphorical stick used to beat information or understanding into a slow >learner.
I was going to remark that Hovnanian IS quite the slow learner. But, considering his leftist "bent", not at all unusual... he'll never learn :-(
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:08:17 +0000, ChrisQ <m...@devnull.com> wrote: >StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt wrote:
>> Fords, AND their owners are retarded.
>Ford have ridden out the recession without any handouts from the >government if my info is correct and they are making a profit at the mo >as well.
$100M in 3Q. Not bad, considering the others.
>which is more than can be said for GM. Why is this ?. Because >they make economical, well designed, reliable and unpretentious cars >that people actually want to buy.
I have two Fords. Don't want pretentious (though SWMBO wants a 2010 Mustang ragtop). I want transportation. Both have been fairly reliable, though the NE salt got to my Ranger ($3000 later).
>I don't and have never run a Ford, but am impressed by their engineering >prowess and ability to produce good all round designs on a consistent >basis. At least, that is, in Europe...
The European models have historically been quite different than the US models.
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