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 More options Nov 6, 7:06 pm
Newsgroups: rec.travel.usa-canada, bc.general, can.general
From: noauth <a...@remailer.gabrix.ath.cx>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 01:06:38 +0100 (CET)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 7:06 pm
Subject: FlyGreatChina.com look for SUCKERS+IDIOTS
From: flygreatchina <flygreatch...@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: rec.travel.usa-canada
Subject: FlyGreatChina.com look for investors
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:29:16 -0800 (PST)

http://www.flygreatchina.com is looking for investors who are
interested in investing money to develop online booking engine selling
low fare tickets from north american to china? we need about $1M . If
you or your company is interested in investing us, and make
http://www.flygreatchina.com become a major online biz in north
american, pls contact us

Any idiot can ask a million dollars, for a program readily available
from India or even China for a few hundred dollars US!

Further, under the laws of Canada, it is ILLEGAL for a company to  invite
funds from the general public, without having their Prospectus approved by
the provincial Securities Commission.

Sure smells like a real SCAM - watch out suckers.


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Discussion subject changed to "FlyGreatChina.com look for SUCKERS+IDIOTS, find Grosvenor" by Kenneth McVay OBC
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From: kmc...@oldshell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC)
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:36:33 -0600
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 2:36 pm
Subject: FlyGreatChina.com look for SUCKERS+IDIOTS, find Grosvenor
Updated Grosvenor Legal Documents & Extortion conviction:
http://William-Grosvenor.info

Grosvenor's latest legal challenge:
http://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2008/2008canlii57728/2008canlii5...

Warman v. Grosvenor Judgment

      Ontario Superior Court of Justice, October 21, 2008
      For two years, Edmonton resident William Grosvenor engaged
in a virtual campaign of terror against Ottawa human rights
lawyer Richard Warman. Grosvenor bombarded the Internet with
calls to murder Warman while providing his home address, and
links to pictures of him and Google maps on how to get to his
home. Combined with this were hundreds of online postings
attempting to destroy Warman's personal and professional
reputation.

      Now a judge of the Ontario Superior Court of Justice has
granted an injunction to put an end to it and has awarded Warman
$50,000 in damages for defamation and assault, the latter
stemming from Grosvenor's death threats and incitement to
violence. These threats of violence repeatedly called for
Warman's murder, described him as a "Dead Jew walking", and said:
"I AM GOD AND I HAVE A RUGER P-90 AND IT'S BULLETS HAVE YOUR NAME
ON THEM FAGBOY WARMAN?." [sic]

      In her decision issued 20 October 2008, Justice Lynn
Ratushny found that despite Grosvenor having filed papers saying
he intended to defend the civil suit, he never did and was thus
deemed to have admitted the allegations against him. Instead of
defending the action, the day after being served with the
statement of claim on 15 Jan. 2008 , Grosvenor began sending
waves of emails to Warman's personal email address repeating his
online threats and libel.

      Justice Ratushny described Grosvenor's defamatory postings
as "vicious, profane and extreme". She found they were made
dishonestly and in knowing or reckless disregard for the truth,
and said it amounted to "highly reprehensible misconduct". sHe
went on to note the level of hatred and anger contained in
Grosvenor's threats. Justice Ratushny said Grosvenor's efforts to
target Warman for violence, including repeatedly providing his
home address during a two-year period, took them beyond empty
threats and meant they had to be taken seriously.

      Warman is an Ottawa lawyer who has successfully filed and
litigated 14 cases against members of the white supremacist and
neo-Nazi movements under the Canadian Human Rights Act provisions
prohibiting the spreading of hate propaganda through the
Internet.

      Responding to the decision, Warman said "I'm hugely
relieved that the injunction has been granted and hope this will
bring an end to this two-year long nightmare." He continued, "I
wish I had never heard of William Grosvenor, but if someone is
going to encourage people to kill me then I'm going to see what I
can do to stop them."

      The terms of the injunction granted by Justice Ratushny at
paragraph 92 of her judgement reference the submissions of the
plaintiff at subparas. 119(c-f). These sub-paragraphs require
Grosvenor to issue a complete retraction of the defamatory
comments; take all reasonable steps to remove them and his
threats from the Internet; prohibit him from publishing further
defamatory material or incitement to violence; and also from
contacting or communicating with Warman in any way.

      The specific terms are:

      119(c) granting a mandatory injunction requiring the
Defendant Mr. Grosvenor to make a complete public retraction of
the defamatory comments;

      119(d) granting a mandatory injunction requiring Mr.
Grosvenor to make all reasonable efforts to remove from the
internet, the entirety of any and all of the internet postings
that he has published or caused to be published, and which are
defamatory to the Plaintiff, and/or which invade the Plaintiff's
privacy and/or which threaten to harm or kill the Plaintiff
and/or contain invitations and encouragements to harm or kill the
Plaintiff, whether by using the Plaintiff's name, nick-name,
address, photograph or other means of identity;

      119(e) granting a permanent injunction restraining the
Defendant Mr. Grosvenor, and/or any other persons acting for the
Defendant, from publishing, causing to be published, posting, or
reposting on the internet or by any other method or medium,
either in Mr. Grosvenor's own name, under any nick-name,
pseudonym or aliases that he now uses, has used, or may use in
the future, any words which are defamatory to the Plaintiff,
and/or which invade the Plaintiff's privacy and/or which threaten
to harm or kill the Plaintiff and/or contain invitations and
encouragements to harm or kill the Plaintiff, whether by using
the Plaintiff's name, nick-name, address, photograph or other
means of identity; and prohibiting Mr. Grosvenor from publishing
or causing to be published any such words about Mr. Warman,
anonymously, or in the name of another person;

      199(f) restraining Mr. Grosvenor from contacting or
communicating directly or indirectly with Mr. Warman, in any way
or by any method;
--
"Pissing in the swimming pool when you are in the water will get you
nowhere. Do it from from a 10 meter springboard and everybody will
notice you!" (Werner Knoll, Surrey's Leading Revisionist Scholar)
           The Nizkor Project http://www.nizkor.org


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