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mike hunt  
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 More options Aug 1 2001, 5:42 pm
Newsgroups: misc.fitness.weights
From: "mike hunt" <mrcheet...@usa.net>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:43:35 -0500
Local: Wed, Aug 1 2001 5:43 pm
Subject: Re: I'm going to start my first cycle soon need sone input
dont ever take steroids, there are reasons why its illegal...it makes your
dick smaller anyways. why do you want to get that big anyways?  women dont
find that attractive.  just try harder, the natural way.  try creatine.

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"Dan Smeek" <dansm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:5_Z97.72412$Cy.10341926@news1.rdc1.az.home.com...
> Hi, I've posted here before, and while some of you guys have labeled me a
> troll or whatnot, I still would appreciate some info.

> I have really been stuck at a plateu for bench, squat, and mass.  About 12
> months ago I had really low bodyfat, and weighed at about 155.  I'm 20
years
> old and 6'2" (I was 6'0") at the time.  I am almost positive that my
growing
> has stopped though, which is why I considering steroids only now.  But
> anyway,  I am currently at 178 pounds and about 8% bodyfat.  I have been
> stuck at 215 for benchpress and have never gone over 350 for squats.  I
> never took deadlifts that seriously but have been doing them the last two
> weeks after reading the MFW FAQ.  I can only dead lift 170 pounds right
now,
> but this amount seems to be increasing relatively fast.

> Anyway,  my goal is be able to bench press 350 pounds (I really want to
beat
> my brother's college level of 315), and to get to a body weight of about
> 200-210 pounds while maintaining a bodyfat below 10%.  I realize that this
> is possible without steroids, but I want to speed things up as quickly as
I
> can.  My friends have done cycles before in the past and they've gotten
huge
> in a dramatically short time.

> I've been looking on the internet and over past messages about steroid
> cycles, and there's so much more to it than I have realized.  The steroids
> my friends took was Sustanon, and they would typically take one injection
> per week.  However they had done steroids in the past (age's 16, 17, so
> forth) and I have not.  They never stacked steroids with anything, and
would
> always do a two week program followed by a 1 week off cycle.

> I would like to get some opinions as to what a good 8 week program would
be
> for a steroid beginner (followed by probably a 2 week off period).   I
know
> what I'm getting into in terms of the risks, side effects, cost,
> psychological addictiveness, and other risks but go ahead and tell me I'm
> too young and whatnot if you want.  I also think that I have my workout
> program, and diet at top notch, hence the reason I want to start this
cycle.

> My current rough draft plan of this cycle is follows

> Week 1:  Sustanon 500 mg (1x week) / Proviron 50 mg (daily)
> Week 2:  Sustanon 500 mg (1x week) / Anadrol 10 mg (daily) / Proviron 50
mg
> (daily)
> Week 3:  Sustanon 500 mg (1x week) / Anadrol 10 mg (daily) / Dianabol 20mg
> (daily) / Proviron 50 mg (daily)
> Week 4:  Sustanon 500 mg (1x week) / Winstrol Depot  20 mg (daily) /
> Dianabol 20 mg (daily) / Proviron 50 mg (daily) / Clomid 50 mg (daily)
> Week 5:  Sustanon 500 mg (1x week) / Primobolan Depot 100 mg (1x week) /
> Winstrol Depot  20 mg (daily) / Dianabol 20 mg (daily) / Proviron 50 mg
> (daily) / Clomid 50 mg (daily)
> Week 6:  Sustanon 500 mg (1x week) / Primobolan Depot 100 mg (1x week) /
> Winstrol Depot  20 mg (daily) / Dianabol 20 mg (daily) / Proviron 50 mg
> (daily)
> Week 7:  Sustanon 500 mg (1x week) / Primobolan Depot 200 mg (1x week) /
> Winstrol Depot  20 mg (daily) / Dianabol 20 mg (daily) / Proviron 50 mg
> (daily) / Clomid 50 mg (daily)
> Week 8:  Sustanon 500 mg (1x week) / Primobolan Depot 300 mg (1x week) /
> Winstrol Depot  20 mg (daily) / Dianabol 20 mg (daily) / Proviron 50 mg
> (daily) / Clomid 50 mg (daily)

> I'm also thinking of adding Clomid 25mg / day for the final two weeks.
> Also, could I add in Deca somewhere in the cycle?  Do any of you think is
> way too much for someone whose never done steroids before?  Should I just
> stick with Sustanon for an 8 week period?  Thanks for input and let me
just
> add that I'm adament at beginning atleast some steroid cycle beginning in
> the next 2 weeks.

> Adam

> PS  in a last thread, there was talk about how swimmers have higher
bodyfat
> than runners possibly due to buoyancy.  I was talking to one of my swimmer
> friends about this, and she commented that the high bodyfat is because
> bodyfat analysis on swimmers is incredibly inaccurate, and that they
infact
> have lower bodyfat than runners.  The reason the bodyfat analysis is
> inaccurate is that because of swimming, your body develops an immunity to
> the cold water and moves all of its bodyfat to the surface area on top of
> the muscles (thus the higher bf analysis?) .  She's an exercise science
> major though, so, what would she know I guess.  Just thought this was
> interesting for those who wanted to know.


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