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  <title type="text">misc.consumers.frugal-living Google Group</title>
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  Practicing a frugal lifestyle.
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  <updated>2009-11-20T23:08:14Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Annie Woughman</name>
  <email>anniewough...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-20T23:08:14Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.jm/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a8576659714369dc/cca73d4d10d9ddf2?show_docid=cca73d4d10d9ddf2</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.jm/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a8576659714369dc/cca73d4d10d9ddf2?show_docid=cca73d4d10d9ddf2"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Please do not buy a new car.</title>
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  I don&#39;t know how many miles we will get out of them. They are all still &lt;br&gt; running fine. When we bought them they had approx 10,000 miles on them. &lt;br&gt; Hubby has typically turned each car over to one of the kids when it hit &lt;br&gt; 160,000 miles. We are talking a 99, an 02, 03 and an 05. The 99 has at &lt;br&gt; least 200,000, I&#39;m not sure about the rest but they are driven every day on
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  <name>Artys</name>
  <email>lajo...@gmi.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-20T22:53:44Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.jm/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/54777a3787644a5e/33c3a45ca27dceb7?show_docid=33c3a45ca27dceb7</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.jm/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/54777a3787644a5e/33c3a45ca27dceb7?show_docid=33c3a45ca27dceb7"/>
  <title type="text">Re: National Broadband Plan</title>
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  Hello everybody, &lt;br&gt; You must not have much unemployment in your area. We do. People &lt;br&gt; are afraid they will be out of their houses and apartments, and that &lt;br&gt; is why they do not try to get internet access where they live. Food &lt;br&gt; is important to most people.
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  <name>frater mus</name>
  <email>frater...@nowhere.invalid</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-20T09:07:28Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.jm/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1fbe380ec171a5e2/48b2fa2859efe760?show_docid=48b2fa2859efe760</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.jm/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1fbe380ec171a5e2/48b2fa2859efe760?show_docid=48b2fa2859efe760"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Cookware</title>
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  I think it was clear enough, although I might disagree with the point. &lt;br&gt; One has to treat teflon (or calphalon, or those hideous induction &lt;br&gt; stovetops, or nice knives) specially to avoid damaging them but this is &lt;br&gt; a consumer education issue and a personal choice. &lt;br&gt; Same with exotic sports cars; you can&#39;t drive them 30mph over
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  <email>petergrif...@drunkinclam.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-20T21:22:20Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.jm/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a8576659714369dc/363df971ea0a2244?show_docid=363df971ea0a2244</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: Please do not buy a new car.</title>
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  This has been disproven many times. It really depends on one&#39;s typical &lt;br&gt; mileage. For low mileage drivers and those who value their time making &lt;br&gt; repairs at zero, buying used makes much sense. For high mileage &lt;br&gt; drivers, new can make sense. The costs of buying a used car every few &lt;br&gt; years soon offsets a single car purchase, especially considering new
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  <name>BigDog1</name>
  <email>bigdog...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-20T20:14:10Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.jm/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/54777a3787644a5e/7ce788122ee95298?show_docid=7ce788122ee95298</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.jm/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/54777a3787644a5e/7ce788122ee95298?show_docid=7ce788122ee95298"/>
  <title type="text">Re: National Broadband Plan</title>
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  No, not really. I was referring to new equipment and should have been &lt;br&gt; more specific. I take your point though. But, used is a problem for &lt;br&gt; me. In my state used merchandise is sold, by law, &amp;quot;as is, where is.&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; What you see is what you get. Great deals can certainly be had, but &lt;br&gt; let&#39;s face it; anyone who in 2009 is just buying their first computer
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  <name>h</name>
  <email>tmcl...@searchmachine.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-20T20:07:08Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.jm/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a8576659714369dc/a979d18d0f24d465?show_docid=a979d18d0f24d465</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.jm/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a8576659714369dc/a979d18d0f24d465?show_docid=a979d18d0f24d465"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Please do not buy a new car.</title>
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  I always buy a small Subaru that&#39;s at least 10 years old. I paid $5k for my &lt;br&gt; last one 3 years ago. I only drive about 3k miles a year, so they last about &lt;br&gt; 10 years. I don&#39;t expect this one to die for at least 7 years.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Annie Woughman</name>
  <email>anniewough...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-20T19:50:43Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.jm/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/48d02eb74da95076/337c9f59bdf0c5d7?show_docid=337c9f59bdf0c5d7</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.jm/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/48d02eb74da95076/337c9f59bdf0c5d7?show_docid=337c9f59bdf0c5d7"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Surprise! California does something stupid - again.</title>
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  No, I was just sharing what I heard a guy tell the clerk. I was standing &lt;br&gt; behind him in the check-out line. I&#39;m sorry if I passed on erroneous &lt;br&gt; information.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Annie Woughman</name>
  <email>anniewough...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-20T19:46:33Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.jm/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a8576659714369dc/82c1003af2c60b88?show_docid=82c1003af2c60b88</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.jm/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/a8576659714369dc/82c1003af2c60b88?show_docid=82c1003af2c60b88"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Please do not buy a new car.</title>
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  Actually the subject line is a good one. Buying a NEW car is never frugal. &lt;br&gt; The minute you drive it off the lot it depreciates by thousands of dollars. &lt;br&gt; We always buy am American made mid-sized sedan that is a rental return or a &lt;br&gt; fleet car. These cars usually only have about 11,000 miles on them are in
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  <name>Malcom Mal Reynolds</name>
  <email>atlas-bug...@invalid.invalid</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-20T18:23:28Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.jm/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/48d02eb74da95076/daee28fbcdf9cb71?show_docid=daee28fbcdf9cb71</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: Surprise! California does something stupid - again.</title>
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  <updated>2009-11-20T18:00:14Z</updated>
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  <updated>2009-11-20T17:14:33Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: National Broadband Plan</title>
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  You&#39;re paying too much. There are lots of used computers available for &lt;br&gt; less that are available cheap. Or as a hand me down from someone they &lt;br&gt; know. &lt;br&gt; What would be the limiting factor is internet access. A monthly bill &lt;br&gt; that may be harder to scrape up the money to pay for than to find a decent &lt;br&gt; free or cheap computer.
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  <title type="text">Re: Surprise! California does something stupid - again.</title>
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  Actually I want my TV and appliances to be energy efficient! So this is a &lt;br&gt; good thing if you ask me. It will lead to the same basic TV looking just as &lt;br&gt; good, but using less electricity to operate...
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